1850s tugs for France

1850s tugs for France

Postby davidships » Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:12 am

Between 1855 and 1857 the newly-formed Compagnie de Touage de la Basse Seine et de l'Oise (TBSO) built seven iron-hulled "toueurs" ("warping tugs" connected to fixed chains laid along sections of the Seine and Oise rivers) at Hull. They were 100ihp, and named MALAKOFF, NAPOLÉON, SEINE (1855), OISE (1856), CRIMÉE, MONITOR and CHARLEROI (1857).
http://www.walewski.org/upload/File/his ... n.pdf(page 3)

Anyone have any idea who might have built these?

This postcard photo may be this CHARLEROI (these toueurs seemed to have long lives). it was taken after 1898, when TBSO merged with another company to form Société Générale de Touage et de Remorquage (SGTR).

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Re: 1850s tugs for France

Postby northeast » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:47 am

An interesting find, David.
They don't appear on the full yard list for Earle's, who had started building in 1853.
The only others that show up in my lists over 1855-57 are Martin Samuelson and Brownlow, Lumsden, the lists I have for them may not be complete so they are possibilities .... but could equally have been from some other small builder not yet found!
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Re: 1850s tugs for France

Postby davidships » Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:20 pm

Thanks George. I suspect one of the two you mention.

Here's another - the PARIS, taken a bit earlier, when still with TBSO.
Paris (toueur) - 1a.jpg


and after 1898:
Paris (toueur) - 2.jpg
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Re: 1850s tugs for France

Postby Whickham » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:13 pm

I have searched the online newspapers of the day and cannot find anything about these tugs. Unfortunately the Crimea War was on at this time and many of the tug names throw up over a 1000 hits, mainly related to the war. What I did find and it could be a total herring rouge is the following article. But it may go some way to explaining why the tugs were built at Hull.

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Re: 1850s tugs for France

Postby davidships » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:34 pm

Thanks Dave. As you say - tangential - but indicative of the business links between the Seine and the North East ports.

I suppose that you looked for references to Samuelson and Brownlow, Lumsden.

Another building in iron at Hull around then was Thomas & Wakefield Pim.
And I don't know when the "Humber Iron Works" started (they were certainly active by the early 1860s)
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Re: 1850s tugs for France

Postby Whickham » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:48 pm

David, I had not checkad all the names that you mention, however I have now and I can't find anything relating to these tugs.
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Re: 1850s tugs for France

Postby wreckmaster » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:22 pm

davidships wrote:Another building in iron at Hull around then was Thomas & Wakefield Pim.

I compiled a yard list for Thomas and Wakefield Pim about two years ago, I suspect I missed a few vessels for German or Russian owners, but I did not find any such as these. Brothers Thomas and Wakefield Pim (Pimm) were Quakers with connections to Waterford and the Malcomsons (Waterford SS Co) they went bust in 1856 or 1857.
You will find a short history on http://www.humberpacketboats.co.uk/hull.html .
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Re: 1850s tugs for France

Postby wreckmaster » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:03 am

davidships wrote:Anyone have any idea who might have built these?

humberpacketboats.co.uk says Samuelson, I found one on Miramar , Napoleon 442 grt built 1856 Samuelson builder ? .
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Re: 1850s tugs for France

Postby Whickham » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:47 pm

According to the Morning Chronicle, which was a London based paper, but quoting a Hull paper, the NAPOLEON was a screw steamer, but no mention of towing and she was a "sister" of others not mentioned in David's list. But . . .

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Re: 1850s tugs for France

Postby Whickham » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:01 pm

The site that Wreckmaster refers to states that Samuelson built 8 tugs for France in 1863. So I have started to look at 1863 instead. I found this article in a review of Hull activity for 1862 which does not bode well for finding anything.

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