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Hawthorn Leslie

PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:16 pm
by Whickham
Aerial photo of Hawthorn Leslie taken just after the war

How many can you name?

Photo courtesy of Kevin of Hebburn

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Re: Hawthorn Leslie

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:11 pm
by northeast
If it was just post-war, on Hawthorn Leslie should be HORNBY GRANGE (1946) with the white riband, and on left the Battle class AGINCOURT (1947) and ALAMEIN (1948 completion)?
The 2-funnel warship is one of the Abdiel class minelayers? If so then maybe APOLLO which they completed in 1944, returned for refurb.
Over at SHWR maybe another Battle CORUNNA (and also OUDENARDE although I have her as hull only completed then abandoned).

Re: Hawthorn Leslie

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:48 pm
by teesships
If George is right about the HORNBY GRANGE, could it be the PORT LYTTELTON second left (still on the stocks?)? If so, that would date the photograph between the HORNBY being launched on 31.5.1946 and 10.9.1946 when the LYTTELTON took to the water (launch dates from Miramar). [Nearer September than June, one might think?]

Ron

Re: Hawthorn Leslie

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 6:32 am
by northeast
Looks right to me Ron, well spotted, and next to her one of the Shell tankers in early construction, maybe LABIOSA of 1948?
The larger vessel over at Wallsend is a puzzle, looks to me like a pre-war ship rather than a new construction?

Re: Hawthorn Leslie

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:52 pm
by teesships
More likely to be the LAMPANIA which was next into the water on 7.1.1947 (per Miramar).
The more I look at it, the more I think HORNBY GRANGE is right!
See: http://www.tynebuiltships.co.uk/H-Ships ... e1946.html
The configuration looks right - kingposts, mast, kingposts forward, mast and kingposts aft.

Ron

Re: Hawthorn Leslie

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:52 pm
by E28
For my first post here would like to mention the white ship 3rd out in the river is not HMS Apollo.
She was the last of the six Abdiel class minelayers and had three funnels, completed here 12 Feb 1944, y no 654.
Maybe someone could take a closer look and identify this distinctive merchantman.
George, your welcome is appreciated, hope my contributions are beneficial. Nice looking site you have here.

Re: Hawthorn Leslie

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:26 pm
by tynebuoy
I've taken a scan of the vessels on both sides which may help with ID
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Re: Hawthorn Leslie

PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:48 am
by northeast
Sean, a very helpful observation which proves we did not look closely enough at this trio of vessels .... the two inside seem to be part-completed cargo vessels, there is a flat section in the centre one (just below the forward funnel of the white ship) which may be the base for her bridge structure. The inner one looks rather 'worn' so may be a repair job.
As for the white ship, she is clearly a merchant passenger ship with an unusual accomm extension forward of her bridge maybe covering what was her forward hold, depicted by the line of windows. Certainly not a product of this yard, so must be some post-war refit perhaps combined with adding this extension? The closely spaced funnels are unusual .... I am thinking of maybe a stranger from Canadian or Australasian waters, must look to the books!

Re: Hawthorn Leslie

PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:59 pm
by northeast
Moved to a new sub-forum 'Tyne River Views' at request of the Hebburn Harrier.

Re: Hawthorn Leslie

PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:45 pm
by tynebuoy
The Hebburn Harrier isn't moving very fast at the moment, ouch.
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