ITM CHALLENGER

ITM CHALLENGER

Postby TEESMAN » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:07 pm

ITM CHALLENGER 88/29722g after launch renamed CHALLENGER and entered service as MACDERMOTT DERRICK BARGE NO50
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On the stocks 01.04.86 Photo Michael Green
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Launch day 02.11.86 Photo Michael Green
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Launch 02.11.86 Photo Michael Green
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Launch 02.11.86 Photo Michael Green
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Re: ITM CHALLENGER

Postby TEESMAN » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:11 pm

Further views of her fitting out
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13.12.86 Photo Michael Green
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20.03.87 Photo Michael Green
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01.08.87 Photo Michael Green
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28.06.87 Photo Michael Green
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Re: ITM CHALLENGER

Postby TEESMAN » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:14 pm

Further view and as the CHALLENGER
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27.08.87 Photo Michael Green
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As CHALLENGER 28.11.87 Photo Michael Green
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Re: ITM CHALLENGER

Postby fitter » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:18 pm

The very last vessel to be built at J.L.Thompsons yard, by then North East Shipbuilders Limited (N.E.S.L.), but would have been Thompsons yard number 742. Ironic perhaps that the final vessel should be completed under the cloud of its owners liquidation. Thompsons first ship from North Sands was "Pearl", 226 ton Brig for Robert Moon Watson and launched 08.07.1846.The firm made £300 profit from the building of the ship.
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Re: ITM CHALLENGER

Postby magoonigal » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:41 pm

£300.

That was a lot of money in 1846.
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Re: ITM CHALLENGER

Postby fitter » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:14 pm

I thought the same. I double checked the book published by Thompsons "One Hundred Years 1846 - 1946 Joseph L. Thompson & Sons" before I submitted the post, and it clearly says £300 profit. I don't know what the price of the ship would be but I wouldn't have thought it would be much more. Do you think it should be the cost of the ship? and the writer got it wrong 67 years ago?
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Re: ITM CHALLENGER

Postby magoonigal » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:59 pm

Possibly??

I always say a Tardis would be very useful to go back and check original records.

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Re: ITM CHALLENGER

Postby fitter » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:10 pm

Paul
You may be familiar with the Thompsons ledgers at T&W Archives, they have costs in, but I never went that far back, I was only interested in the liberty ship era at the time. next time I'm there I will have a look and see.
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Re: ITM CHALLENGER

Postby magoonigal » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:52 pm

Its always the best place to look, Tom.

Original Records usually get it right.
The problems arise when someone state's something that is incorrect and other people copy it into other publications.

Having said that, Lloyds don't always get it right, but usually because they have not been supplied with the correct information in the first place.

Best of luck!
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Re: ITM CHALLENGER

Postby wreckmaster » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:45 am

A few costs from other areas to make comparisons
Between 1840 and 1850 Halls of Aberdeen were building vessels in the 200 to 400 ton range for an average of £ 14- 14-0 per ton.
Whites in Waterford (south east Ireland) were building similar sized vessels for £ 16 per ton , I know from Whites books they took 10% profit .
In 1847 Whites built the Junior 349 ton Barque for £ 4711 (13.10 per ton) , 10% = £470 .
So £300 sounds about right for the 226 T ton Brig .
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