Hesse Darmatadt

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Hesse Darmatadt

Postby tynebuoy » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:04 pm

Anyone have any info on Hesse Darmstadt, nothing at Miramar. And anyone know what "Put out at Rouen162 2/3 standards of deal" means, please?

Shields Daily Gazette - Friday 20 January 1882
BARQUE “HESSE DARMSTADT” TO BE SOLD BY PUBLIC AUCTION

T. GLOVER & SON are instructed to offer the above Ship, at their Offices, king Street, South Shields, on Thursday, February 2nd, 1882. The Sale to commence at Three o'Clock prompt. Built in 1863, and classed at Lloyds, 9 years A1. Register tonnage, 331; length, 116 feet; breadth, 27 feet; depth, 16feet 5 inches. Carries 560 tons weight on a draft of 16 feet 2 inches. Put out at Rouen 162 2/3 standards of deals; shifts without ballast, and sheathed with yellow metal. In every respect well found in every description of Gear, including Two Suits of Sails. Now lying at hebburn Buoys, and will be laid upon Huntley's Shore, at Hebburn, on the day previous, and on the day of Sale. An inventory may be seen at the Auction Office, or on Board the Ship.
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Re: Hesse Darmatadt

Postby northeast » Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:00 pm

Sailing ships not in Miramar, Kevin, will need a LR to find her.
"Deals" means timber .... old word for softwood cargoes such as from the Baltic.
The standard was I think the "St.Petersburg standard" I used to know how many cubic feet that was (long ago!).

ps

"Standard Dozen. In Russia sawn timber is calculated by the
standard dozen or 1 2 pieces 12 ft. 11 in. x 1 1 in.

Standard Hundred. An established measure for timber consisting
of 120 pieces (the Long Hundred or 10 dozen), except the
Quebec Standard, which contains 100, of a certain size. The
Petrograd or St. Petersburg Standard is the one most generally
used in this country."
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Re: Hesse Darmatadt

Postby Whickham » Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:13 pm

Confused? You soon will be! (Who can still remember that catch phrase?)

In the 1871 register she is as per your description in terms of size. Owned by Avery at North Shields. Built at Sunderland by a very blurred builder, Taylor I think. Launched January 1863

Can't find her in 1882 register.
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Re: Hesse Darmatadt

Postby tynebuoy » Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:27 pm

Never anything easy is there. Thanks chaps.
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Re: Hesse Darmatadt

Postby magoonigal » Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:58 pm

Hesse Darmstadt.
Tyne Owned 1863 to 1873. ON 45595
Barque 333 tons. 115.7 x 27.2 x 16.5 feet.

1863: Built by Taylor at Sunderland.
Owners. 24th January 1863: James Brotherick Avery (Widow), North Shields.
12th April 1864 Robert Brotherick Avery (s.o.), North Shields acquired 6/64ths.
14th March 1869: Jane Brotherick Avery died. Robert Brotherick Avery became her Owner.
(Not sure if Dick meant to say Jane instead on James in the first line??)

On the 7th May 1863 the HESSE DARMSTADT stranded 50 yards off Salt Key fifteen hours after sailing from Havana. The Tyne barque WESTOE also had a narrow escape from striking the same reef as the HESSE DARMSTADT but steered clear after seeing her signals. The HESSE was re-floated after some cargo was jettisoned but the London barque WENTWORTH which struck the reef at the same time became a wreck. She made another voyage to Havana in 1864 but in the following year was in the Black Sea Trade.
On 19th July 1873 the Hesse was sold to John Kirby Hill & William Thompson, Whitby shipowners. Afterwards she was involved in a number of incidents.
19th July 1874. London to Messina in ballast. Collided with the COLOMBO off Ilfracombe. Put into Newport.

17th October 1876. Sailed Stralsund for Windau (Capt Ramsden). Reported ashore full of water on November 4th.

10th February 1879. From Lacepede Islands with Guano. Badly damaged during gale off Western Islands. Leaking. Jettisoned about 50 tons cargo.

3rd January 1881. Glasgow to Demerara. Put into Corcubion, Spain, leeking badly with bowsprit and jib-boom carried away. Bulwarks and Stanchions damaged, sails lost and one man drowned.

According to Lloyds Register for 1887 she was still afloat as the SELA owned by O Tellefsen of Ugland, Grimstad, Norway.

Dick Keys. Privately published "Dictionary of Tyne Sailing Ships".
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